1. Conference Halls give a rather big discount if you book multiple years.
2. VMware wants to send enough people to operationally support the show.
3. With 2 conferences a year (US & Europe) it makes a bit more sense. California can service US and partsof Asia, while Europe can service some US and parts of the far east. If they do East coast USA, Asia has a 18 hour flight instead of a 12 hour flight.
That's what I understand, but I could be off base and this is just my personal knowledge, not any official VMware answer.
Eric
Web Communities Team
VMware, Inc.
VMworld 2010 ( next year ) will also be in SF again.. I heard last year at the Vegas show. It is because of $ and expenses involved.
Also, they really cant find a palce on the east coast that could handle the 12-14000 people.
I will agree with the expenses aspect of things, as SF is much closer to VMware hq.
However, I certainly hope your second reasoning isn't true. If MS can hold TechEd (which is easily 4x larger than VMworld) in both Orlando and Boston (which they have in the last 3 years), then you can't possibly tell me that VMware couldn't do the same. In addition, EMC holds their conference in Orlando quite often.
Thank goodness it is in San Francisco and not Orlando. As for Vegas, that can throw red flags to corporations.
I've been to the orlando concerence at TechEd. The weather was so \bad, I'll never opt to go again. If i am going to travel somewhere, I prefer it be the bay area of California.
The range of Boston or Orlando is a huge distance. From that perspective, i don't see why San Francisco is a big deal. The cost of plane fare is hardly different. VMware, stay true to your California roots. If San Franciso keeps the cost of VMware product down, then all the more reason to keep it there in my opinion.
There is a another reason as well, I just remembered it, although probably this could apply to Boston.
A lot of folks arrange several visits while out here. HP, Oracle, Apple, Google and many many others are based here, so when you come out to SF, you can visit the HQs of multipel tech vendors. Many CTO's and executives routinely do this when they come to SF. About 30% of VMworld visitors are actually executive folks who try to setup a multi purpose trip and might do VMworld for 1-2 days.
Vegas last year, with the speedway and the environment had to be the "best" show I've ever been to in my entire life. I've probably been to over 50 shows, but going out on the track was just so fun. But Vegas is very expensive and viewed as extravagent when compared to places life SF. I also love Boston and would really enjoy a show their.
But, I suspect it will SF for a while to come. Maybe I will post some links for fun things to do while you here, since I do live here. =)
As long as the event isn't in Vegas. Great city, great venue, great event, WORST time convincing the boss it wasn't a boondoggle. Seriously.
It would have been easier to sell "why I need to go to VMworld" if it had been at Disneyworld and it was required to ride roller coasters to travel between sessions.
Whatever the reasoning, I hope it stays on the West Coast. PLEASE.... ![]()
There are a number of people who attend this from outside the
US. For me (New Zealand based) & next door neighbours from
Australia, we already have 12 & 14 hour flights to the west coast.
To jump to the East coast cuts alot of people out. Getting bean
counter sign off for international travel is hard enough to the West
Coast (flights cost us more than the conf ticket).
I'm sure VMWare take into account international travellers - and as mentioned Asia is a large catchment for VMWare (it is a global company after all
)
@ Theron..... LOL when reading your 'boondoggle' comment. You should try convicing a boss you need to fly 1/4 of the way round the world to go to Vegas for a conf ("I promise I'll keep expenses to a min! :-0).
Yeah, but September is the off-season for the state of Florida because of hurricane season. Move it to Orlando and you either risk hurricanes, very low attendence because of the threat of hurricanes, or they'd have to move the conference to a different season. Same might be true of Boston... but probably not so much. Either way, the conference price would undoubtably go way up when they have to factor in the cost of flying... what was it? 1,000 employees? coast-to-coast?
Hey, to that same end, the best time to go to DisneyWorld: September! I went last year and it was great! Lines at the parks were empty. Just get the travel insurance they offer in case a hurricane shows up and grab those kids out of school (what do they really learn the first week back anyway!
Plus Disney offers free dining plans during that season often times to lure people there during that extreme off season.
I would like to see them move it back a few weeks so I can take the family..
With school started at the end of Aug, can't take the family especailly with my son playing High School sports in the Fall.
Oralce has the IOUG/Collaborate Conference in May in Orlando in alteranting years.
Well, usually these types of conferences and such are scheduled for the off tourist seasons because the costs are lower all around for the organizers and attendees as well. As far as Orlando and Vegas, I can't send myself or staff to anything in this type of area because our BOD's will never approve them as they feel the staff sent are going to party and swill free booze with any knowledge transfer a distant 3rd tops. Kinda funny as I don't drink and they know it, but that's my reality and I'm sure others have the same issue to deal with. Not saying it's right, but I can sell SF all day long but Vegas\Orlando\etc are just non-starters around here and I can't change the boards minds about it. In fact, I was told to NEVER EVER even ask about them, period. Plus, SF is a great town so it's a win/win for me.
"A lot of folks arrange several visits while out here. HP, Oracle, Apple, Google and many many others are based here, so when you come out to SF, you can visit the HQs of multipel tech vendors. "
You can do that in Boston too. I feel for the international travelers but, it seems like Vmware is neglecting half the country. I know a few people that can't go this year because they can't afford the flight across country.
S.F. isn't bad. The Moscone Center however is terrible for an event like this. Where do the lines begin and end? Why boxed lunches with cold sandwiches.
I agree the East coast is getting the shaft. When you think of international, ,what about the people comming from London? The have to cross the Atlantic ocean and then the US.
Every year flip West coast to East coast. This way there are more options.
i think it really comes down to VMware wants their local employees to drive to SF to cut down on expenses.
Once again sad that the customer get's the shaft. If this was on the east coast, I could have driven 8 - 10 hours to save on airfare. this would have allowed another employee to attend.
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